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Request undeletion
[edit]Hello. I hope you're having a good day. Could you please explain why this file was deleted as "consensus is to delete" [1]? I don't think this discussion had consensus to delete.
![[1]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:%D4%B1%D5%BD%D5%AF%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%AB_%D6%87_%D5%8E%D5%A1%D5%B6%D6%84_%D5%A3%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%B2%D5%AB_%D5%B6%D5%AF%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%B6%D5%A5%D6%80_33.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=1063031632){kind=link}
Also I tried to upload a new version of this collage like you suggested [2], but I had an overwriting not allowed issue. Though if the "File:Ասկերանի և Վանք գյուղի նկարներ 33.jpg" gets restored, there would be no reason for the collage to change. Hopefully you can restore it as I don't think there was consensus to delete. Thanks. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 14:39, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
![[2]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:StepanakertCollage.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=1063048919){kind=link}
- You're right that "consensus to delete" may have been a poor choice of words. What I meant was that the file was deleted due to a consensus of relevant policies and legal texts, particularly COM:FOP Azerbaijan and the lack of evidence for commercial FOP under Artsakh law, not because of a clear consensus among participants. The DR had been open for over a month - if you disagree with the outcome, you're welcome to request review at COM:UNDEL. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 21:42, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- I had the time today to post the undeletion request. Thank you for your help. In the meantime, please don’t close the collage discussion yet. I won’t upload a new collage either until the undeletion request concludes. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 18:21, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Given the fact that I opened the DR, I won't also close it (that would be "involved"). However, any other admin might do it 7 days after the opening of the request. You may wish to comment in that discussion regarding this. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:36, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- I just saw the undeletion request got closed. I didn't understand your argument. "There is no evidence that Artsakh adopted the 2013 Armenian amendment allowing commercial use, which is a requirement for hosting images on Commons." - why would it need to be commercial? Wikipedia isn't a business, it's a non profit. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 06:43, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please read Commons:Commercial and Commons:L. It’s part of Commons core-rules to allow commercial use. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 11:25, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- To be more clear: Wikimedia Commons requires that all files uploaded here must be free for any kind of reuse, including commercial use and modification. This is because Commons is not just for Wikipedia — it is a general-purpose media archive meant for anyone to use, including educators, journalists, and commercial publishers. The rule is based on the definition of free cultural works, which Commons follows as part of its core mission.
- Even though the Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organization, both Commons and Wikipedia follow the same rule for their content: everything must be free to reuse, including for commercial purposes. The only exception is fair use material, which is allowed in limited cases on some language editions of Wikipedia but is not allowed on Commons at all.
- So when an image is deleted from Commons due to the lack of freedom of panorama or uncertainty about commercial reuse rights, it’s because the file doesn’t meet the legal and licensing requirements that apply to all content on Commons. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 11:30, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- ok, I'll think about this and respond later. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 12:45, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- The previous file might be able to be uploaded on enwp, they have other rules on if they allow no-FOP images or not, I think they only care about US copyright (may need to use fair use criteria's or use a tag such as en:Template:FoP-Russia (but for the right country). I'm not sure about their media rules). --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 07:22, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- ok, I'll think about this and respond later. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 12:45, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please read Commons:Commercial and Commons:L. It’s part of Commons core-rules to allow commercial use. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 11:25, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- I just saw the undeletion request got closed. I didn't understand your argument. "There is no evidence that Artsakh adopted the 2013 Armenian amendment allowing commercial use, which is a requirement for hosting images on Commons." - why would it need to be commercial? Wikipedia isn't a business, it's a non profit. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 06:43, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Given the fact that I opened the DR, I won't also close it (that would be "involved"). However, any other admin might do it 7 days after the opening of the request. You may wish to comment in that discussion regarding this. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:36, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- I had the time today to post the undeletion request. Thank you for your help. In the meantime, please don’t close the collage discussion yet. I won’t upload a new collage either until the undeletion request concludes. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 18:21, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi, Could you restore this 19th century portrait for me? I would need it for an entry 2.196.42.45 22:32, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- I direct you to COM:UNDEL with argument why it may be public domain. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 22:36, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
File:Homeland party logo.jpg
[edit]Hi, I saw this file was deleted a day ago. I am struggling to understand the reasoning here. You state 'this is creative enough to be copyrighted in the UK'. Does that mean all other political party logos, such as 'File:Reform UK BBC Logo.svg' and 'File:Flag of Patriotic Alternative.svg' also fall under the same reasoning? If not, please could you clarify what makes those different from this case?
Many thanks Rocky2459 (talk) 17:12, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- An arrow (which is just a rectangle and a triangle; as in File:Reform UK BBC Logo.svg) is too simple to qualify for copyright protection (see {{PD-textlogo}} or {{PD-simple}}}), while a more creatively designed emblem, such as the stylised depiction of a castle in the Homeland Party logo, can meet the threshold. The subject matter is irrelevant — what matters is the level of creative expression in the design. In the same way, a single word cannot be copyrighted, but a book can. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 17:42, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Many thanks for the quick reply. Interesting.
- One final question: I can see an example of a logo that seems to meet the threshold for copyright protection you described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hope_not_hate.svg
- Would that qualify for deletion as a result, or is there a different set of rules that apply for that particular case? If so, could those rules not also apply in this case? Rocky2459 (talk) 17:57, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- That file is not hosted on Wikimedia Commons, but on the English Wikipedia. It does not claim to be freely licensed or public domain. Instead, it is used there under the English Wikipedia's policy on non-free content, specifically under a "fair use" rationale. Commons does not permit fair use files at all, everything here must be freely licensed and usable for any purpose (including commercial use and derivative works). English Wikipedia, however, allows limited non-free use of low-resolution images when no free equivalent exists and when the image is used in a way that meets their non-free content criteria (see en:Wikipedia:Non-free_content). That is why the "Hope not Hate" logo can be hosted locally on English Wikipedia but not here on Commons, and why the Homeland Party logo, which met the copyright threshold in the UK, had to be deleted from Commons. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ahhh, that explains it. Many thanks for clarifying. Rocky2459 (talk) 18:16, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- That file is not hosted on Wikimedia Commons, but on the English Wikipedia. It does not claim to be freely licensed or public domain. Instead, it is used there under the English Wikipedia's policy on non-free content, specifically under a "fair use" rationale. Commons does not permit fair use files at all, everything here must be freely licensed and usable for any purpose (including commercial use and derivative works). English Wikipedia, however, allows limited non-free use of low-resolution images when no free equivalent exists and when the image is used in a way that meets their non-free content criteria (see en:Wikipedia:Non-free_content). That is why the "Hope not Hate" logo can be hosted locally on English Wikipedia but not here on Commons, and why the Homeland Party logo, which met the copyright threshold in the UK, had to be deleted from Commons. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
Free license permission obtained by https://ttsreader.com
[edit]https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ttsreader_gazi-ya-ar.ogv
I have the permission that was sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org da parte di https://ttsreader.com nelle persone di Amiel Rieger e Ronen Rabinovici. Posso avere un aiuto per la licenza libera? Grazie infinite da Al*from*Lig, Italia. 176.201.47.1 16:12, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- Then it is in the queue to be reviewed by a VRT agent - there is currently a slight backlog on responding to tickets, so it may take a few days. I just did the "first response" asking for clarifications. If it is accepted, a VRT agent will note that on the file page. If not, a VRT agent will reply to the person who emailed. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 16:17, 17 August 2025 (UTC)